Articles | Volume 19, issue 21
https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-19-10321-2026
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Towards high-fidelity simulations of coastal submesoscale baroclinic instabilities with MPAS-O (vE3SM3.0.0) – Part 1: Idealized experiments
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- Final revised paper (published on 30 Oct 2026)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-1566', Sergey Danilov, 05 Jun 2026
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Kyle Hinson, 21 Sep 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-1566', Anonymous Referee #2, 14 Aug 2026
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Kyle Hinson, 21 Sep 2026
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The manuscript presents a test case and compares the performance of ROMS and MPAS-O. The test could be of interest for other groups, as it explores model performance at rather small scales where dynamics is very much different from the dynamics dominated by mesoscale baroclinic instabilities. I therefore recommend this manuscript for the journal. Below are some suggestions/remarks that could be helpful.
The Introduction is too MPAS-centric in my opinion. The value of this manuscript is in presenting a properly documented test case and simulation results. The test case and documented diagnostics can be used by other groups. Place some focus on this. Staggered discretizations on unstructured meshes have spurious modes, and therefore need a certain level of dissipation. Test cases that explore fine-scale dynamics which might be affected by dissipations or by modes are indeed welcome. You show that for MPAS all this does not present a problem. Other groups can, perhaps, follow.
Small things:
145 'enstrophy-dissipating' -- since the Leith viscosity enters the momentum equation, it serves to dissipate kinetic energy dissipating. (It is the derivation of this viscosity that is based on the idea of enstrophy dissipation).
Section 2.3.5. Formula (8) gives an estimate only for 1D uniform velocity. In a general case the third order scheme will introduce viscosity in the direction of velocity, while the one in MPAS-O is isotropic. So it is difficult to say which viscosity is larger. A better way to judge would be to estimate the KE dissipation due to horizontal advection in ROMS and explicit biharmonic viscosity in MPAS-O (This would be of interest for others too).
230 The relative vorticity is, strictly speaking, not an invariant.
265 This diagnostics works only for the first order upwind advection schemes. For higher-order schemes, the estimate it provides locally are contaminated by much larger dispersive errors, see Banerjee et al., 2024. For bulk volume estimate one can look at the change of s^2 due to advection of s without running any special diagnostics.
389 ' ... of antidiffusion ...' One cannot call this antidiffusion, as the negative DVD may reflect dispersive errors of the method.
407 ' ... anti-diffusive response ... ' I find this result to be strange. If the third order advection is used in MPAS-O together with flux correction method, both are dissipative. Even if the third-fourth order advection is applied, it is still dissipative. The standard FCT algorithm is dissipative.
485 ' is more anti-diffusive' --- or less diffusive
Sergey Danilov