Articles | Volume 19, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-19-4817-2026
https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-19-4817-2026
Model evaluation paper
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05 Jun 2026
Model evaluation paper |  | 05 Jun 2026

Why does the signal-to-noise paradox exist in seasonal climate predictability?

Shivamurthy Yashas, Subodh Kumar Saha, Samir Pokhrel, Mahen Konwar, and Verma Utkarsh

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Interactive discussion

Status: closed

Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor | : Report abuse
  • CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1683', Youmin Tang, 07 Sep 2025
    • AC1: 'Reply on CC1', S.K. Saha, 09 Sep 2025
      • CC2: 'Reply on AC1', Youmin Tang, 09 Sep 2025
        • AC2: 'Reply on CC2', S.K. Saha, 17 Sep 2025
  • RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1683', Anonymous Referee #1, 22 Sep 2025
  • CC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1683', BN GOSWAMI, 02 Oct 2025
    • CC5: 'Reply on CC3', Yashas Shivamurthy, 01 Jan 2026
  • CC4: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1683', Adam Scaife, 11 Nov 2025
  • RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1683', Adam Scaife, 28 Nov 2025
    • CC6: 'Reply on RC2', Yashas Shivamurthy, 01 Jan 2026
    • AC4: 'Reply on RC2', S.K. Saha, 12 Jan 2026

Peer review completion

AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
AR by S.K. Saha on behalf of the Authors (30 Jan 2026)  Author's response   Author's tracked changes   Manuscript 
ED: Reconsider after major revisions (01 Apr 2026) by Richard Neale
AR by S.K. Saha on behalf of the Authors (07 Apr 2026)  Author's response   Author's tracked changes   Manuscript 
ED: Publish as is (08 May 2026) by Richard Neale
AR by S.K. Saha on behalf of the Authors (10 May 2026)
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Short summary
This study highlights challenges in estimating seasonal climate predictability using the perfect model framework, which assumes only initial conditions cause error. We show that forecasts can exceed the predicted limit, known as the Potential Predictability Limit (PPL), due to model imperfections in simulating physical processes. A new method is proposed to estimate PPL more accurately and avoid such paradoxes.
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