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https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-18-9565-2025
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The glacial systems model (GSM) Version 25G
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Review of "The glacial systems model (GSM) Version 24G" by Tarasov et al.
Summary
Tarasov and coauthors describe the glacial system(s) model GSM, intended for simulating ice sheet evolution on the glacial-interglacial timescale. It covers a broad range of modules (climate, ice sheet flow, hydrology, solid Earth deformation, sediment transport, ... ) reflecting the complexity of relevant Earth system processes. I appreciate the effort of the authors to document this model and generally support publication of the manuscript while considering the comments below.
General comments
1. The manuscript obviously struggles with the difficulty to document 30+ years of model development in one paper. Since many aspects are interlinked and grown together, it seems difficult to suggest a meaningful subdivision on the component level. Nevertheless, the idea to split the paper in two or more smaller parts seems obvious and should be considered. In particular in view of my comments below, which if properly addressed, would make the paper even longer. To give a concrete suggestion: some parts of the manuscript already tend to have the characteristics of a reference manual. One could envision to fully focus this manuscript as part 1 on that more technical description, and have a second part that fully explores model capabilities in a more applied sense.
2. It is difficult to suggest more content in a paper that is already 55 pages long, but while I find the descriptions both detailed and transparent, several parts of the model description are reduced to mere technical level. Generally, there isn't much opportunity to get a grip on what the model choices imply for actual simulations. I am thinking in particular about the different mass balance processes (2.7) and climate forcing options (2.10). The selection of what receives more detail with some examples and figures seems arbitrary. To give a better idea of the model's capabilities, all processes that are not already documented in separate publications should be fully described and illustrated.
3. The introduction is rather short (effectively 1 paragraph, before going into model specifics) and doesn't give a good introduction to the science GSM is meant to address and the parts of the Earth system it tries to model. After reading the introduction, the reader should have gotten a basic idea of what GSM tries to model, how the different Earth system components interact and hang together, and what other approaches exist to do so. A schematic flow diagram or similar would be useful to support this part.
4. I miss a better view on the approaches and processes that are celebrated in the introduction to be more complex, complete or otherwise superior to other models (englacial sediment transport, noise insertion). I feel these would require a more thorough analysis and comparison to show their relevance and justify these claims. Otherwise they should probably be toned down.
5. Large parts of the Conclusions section actually read like a classical discussion section. Consider changing the title to Discussion and Conclusions. Also, the discussion should be extended to give a better view on model advantages, caveats and shortcomings compared to other ice sheet models used in the paleo context (resolution, grid refinement, approximations, ...) or why these are not relevant in the given context.
Specific comments
Title. How does this release relate to earlier (probably unpublished) version of a model with the same name, e.g. https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-7-1949-2013? This should be made clear in abstract and introduction.
l2. Say what other components it includes to make it a glacial system model, rather than an ice sheet model?
l2. could remove "glaciological" before "ice sheet model".
l29. Text from here already reads like part of the model description (Sec. 2).
l29. "Glacial Systems Model" like in the title or "Glacial System Model" like in the abstract?
l30. "... not found as a set in any other ice sheet model"
I think it would be more useful to continue in the spirit of the first paragraph and discuss what this specific context requires as features, before stating how GSM addresses those, and only finally how that is an improvement over other models.
l34. replace 'nor' by 'or' or 'and'?
l38. "GSM currently having 30 (Patagonia) to 53 (North America) ensemble parameters"
What about the other regions (Antarctica, Eurasia, ...)? Generally, the numbers by themselves or not so meaningful for the uninitiated.
l41. "(uniquely to date) also has noise insertion options"
How is that different from https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-15-8269-2022? Include a reference and explain.
Table 1. Include headings for 2.7 and 2.10
l56. "SSA/SIA"
Include reference to 2.4 and A1
l58. "appropriate" to do what? Remove "appropriate" or explain.
l61. "basal drag laws for soft and hard beds"
Include reference to 2.5
l67. Why not continue following the order of Table 1?
l68. "geoidal deflection"
I get very few hits for this term on online searches. Is there a more common term for this, E.g. drawn from https://doi.org/10.1007/s10712-019-09525-z?
l75. "glacially-indexed GCM snapshots"
Is this treated in 2.10.1?
l78. Include description of 2.10.4?
l79. Sec 2.12 is called "Ice margin nudging" in the main text but "mass balance nudging" in Table 1. Make consistent. Include a short description and reference to 2.12 here.
l82. Include short description of 2.16 here.
l82. In the end, refer again to Table 1.
l85. Remove one "(".
Table 2 caption "Non-climate forcing ensemble parameters"
A bit difficult to parse. Maybe "Ensemble parameters (not related to climate forcing)"
Table 3
Greenland specific
latitudinal ramp width of added Holocene warming "42.−40 ×(0.0 →1.0)"
Missing dot after 40?
l106. Sec 2.3 may be better placed as part of or directly after 2.1?
l114. Does the solver translate without adaptation to regular and lat-lon grids?
l144. "Glenn" --> "Glen", also in l150.
l144. Several recent studies have suggested the Glen flow law exponent could be closer to 4. It seems like an obvious candidate to sample in the ensemble design. Is it easy in GSM to change n? Is that planned?
l165. "for a detail examination" --> "for a detailed examination of the"
l166. Consider using i), ii) , iii) after "accounts for:"
l170. "With the -DNeffDRAG compile flag"
Can this be motivated (physically)? What is the aim of this change?
l175 "exponent mb = 4"
Clarify is this is only for the Greenland domain or generally the case.
l183. "contemporaneous sea level"
In which vertical reference frame is the model operating?
l193. "fractional soft bed cover of the grid cell"
Where does this information come from? Is this from a dataset (which one) or dynamically computed based on sediment transport in the model?
l197. "in partial accord with a numerically self-consistent treatment for the setting of cell interface diffusion coefficients"
Not sure I can follow this. Have "cell interface diffusion coefficients" been introduced before?
l202. "input sediment fraction"
Do we know how the sediment fraction enters the model?
l209. "their data input requirements are unlikely to be met"
Not clear to me what this is referring to.
l218. "A last motivation for this design choice"
While I agree with the arguments for paleo contexts, I wouldn't call that not-implementation a 'design choice'. Maybe just "choice".
l221. "subgrid pinning points under the ice shelf that aren’t presently active"
or not resolved.
l241. "grid cell resolution (∆xy)"
How is that defined for a lat-lon grid?
l250. insert "is" before "focused on surge cycling"
l263. "GSM ice and permafrost resolving bed thermodynamics"
Reads like this section is on bed thermodynamics. Maybe "ice thermodynamics and permafrost resolving bed thermodynamics"
Could remove "GSM", in line with other headings.
l267. "Heat source terms include full SSA and SIA contributions to deformation work (Qd) and the boundary heat flux"
Also describe all the other components of the equation.
l279. "Unlike many ice sheet models"
Not sure this is still the case. Energy conservation has been addressed in many ice sheet models these days.
l307. "orbital changes in short-wave forcing"
Could refer to https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-8-1419-2014 for another approach to this concern.
l311. "Observationally, fitted PDD melt coefficients vary over a wide range"
I was confused by "fitted". PDD factors can be experimentally determined by measuring ice and snow melt and temperature at the same place. Where does the fitting come in?
Also, wide range during the day, between different locations, or generally?
l316. "only contributes to surface melt if the surface temperature is at 0o C"
Do you account for sublimation separately?
l324. "PDDs are computed for paleo modelling contexts based on a probabilistic distribution around mean monthly temperatures"
Calls for some references.
Figure 2 caption. "set to it’s nominally regressed value" --> "set to its nominally regressed value"
l345. "it has been common for paleo ice sheet models to determine PDD" --> PDDs
Calls for some references.
l359. "in the above supice equation"
Refer to equation number (20) instead.
l361. "RCMs" is not defined
l361. "This parameterization deviates from previous"
Add "studies", give references.
l364. not clear what "ibid" points to.
l418. "submarine face melt"
Maybe "submarine calving face melt"?
l477. insert "the" before "grounding line"
l488. "bergy bits"
Do you mean ice mélange or "sikkussaq"/"sikkusak"?
l500. "self-consistent DEM"
Is the DEM updated based on GIA and blocking of ice? If so, mention/explain here.
l520. "The change is ice thickness" replace "is" by "in"
l521. "surface runoff discharge calculation"
Is mass conservation imposed on the global level/per ice sheet domain? How does that work?
l522. "This ice remains subject to all the other mass-balance processes in the GSM."
Not clear to me what that means.
l526. and elsewhere. What is the logic of capitalising or not section titles? Make consistent.
l530. "August−February differences range up to 25%"
Is this a temperature difference? 25%/100% of what?
l533. "Ie is the mean monthly EBM temperature anomaly"
Could be useful to have a table of the different Is for a better overview, e.g. [I, purpose, equation, range]
l584. "NCAR CSM general circulation climate model"
Was called "CCM" at that time. See referenced article.
l643. Consider introducing a subheading for temperature and precipitation (I think bold without numbering is the level 4 heading)
l650. "as followings"
"as follows"
Eq 45. Resolve double subscript on T2m0.
l656. "Computed precipitation is then subject to the factor"
I presume this means moisture is not conserved? Could be good to mention.
l659. "climate index (Ic)", "dome elevation index Id"
I think using the longer form, like here, stating what the indices mean should be the standard throughout the paper.
l664. 2.10.3 would make more sense for me to be a part of the section on precipitation above (at level 5), rather then a level 3.
l665. "Paleo ice sheet modellers have traditionally relied"
Calls for some references.
l705. "the Eemian high-stand was inadequate"
add "sea level" to clarify what high-stand this is.
What magnitude/range are you assuming and trying to match? Reference.
l715. Does this feature really need a separate subsection?
l719. "is that module" --> "is that the module"
l730. Clarify in how far this means mass is not conserved.
l755. "activated basal hydrology component"
Add reference to sec 2.13.
l770. "as is typical for paleo ice sheet modelling"
Calls for some references.
l787. - l793. "To improve generalizability, ..."
This text gets very specific and is difficult to understand without further instructions. Suggest to keep the description more general or make an example and get much more detailed.
l794. "For ice sheets with extensive present-day ice cover"
What ice sheets do you have in mind? Are there more than two (GrIS and AIS)
l794. "the sensitivity of the correction to discrepancies in simulated 0 ka ice
thickness (compared to that observed) are too strong for such a correction approach"
What instead then? Is it not needed to correct those?
l796. "Geoidal deflection within the GSM ice sheet grid is computed using a linear approximation."
Add a short introduction for the uninitiated. What is the purpose of this calculation?
l811. " a future"
"the future" or "a future version".
l815. "inter-model comparison experiments"
Typically "model inter-comparison experiments"
l832. "This approximation will become more inaccurate"
While this statement gives some importance to this choice, it could be mentioned here that the choice of an initial temperature profile is arbitrary and mostly a question of convenience, to shorten the required equilibration time. In other words, this choice shouldn't really have a big influence on the final spun up temperature if the relaxation is done appropriately. Is this not illustrated in Fig 6?
l841. "For a set of not-ruled-out-yet"
This concept should be introduced early in the manuscript. E.g. in the introduction.
l846. "is the difference" --> "in the difference"
Table 7. "key GSM fields"
Maybe "Key prognostic GSM variables"?
l875. "drainage solver verification again present-day drainage" --> "drainage solver verification against present-day drainage"
l898. "process noise injection for internal discrepancy assessment is also to date unique"
See comment l41.
l961. I find the verbatim font without any structuring elements is difficult to read. Could this be presented e.g. as a bulleted list with different symbols in addition to the indentation?
Figure B1. Difficult to make out differences. Consider zooming in or producing an inset, e.g. around the LGM, Eemian and/or present day.
l1035. Missing some dois throughout the reference list. Here e.g. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40641-017-0071-0
Supplement
All figures in the supplement.
- increase axes label sizes and y-tick label sizes
- parameter number (x-ticks) can be removed.
- increase x-axis range to fully include rightmost parameter
- move parameter names up so they are not overlapping with the x-axis or outside of the figure to also avoid overlap of symbols and parameter names
- replace y-axis label "metric" by actual metric name and units.
Captions. Cryptical what the reference parameter vector is (e.g. an1600). Explain?
Figure 1. "for the parameter range in Tables2 and 3." ... "in the main manuscript".