Articles | Volume 16, issue 22
https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-16-6593-2023
© Author(s) 2023. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Monte Carlo drift correction – quantifying the drift uncertainty of global climate models
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- RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1515', Damien Irving, 16 Mar 2023
- RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2022-1515', Anonymous Referee #2, 19 Jun 2023
- AC1: 'Response to referee comments', Benjamin Grandey, 07 Aug 2023
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (05 Sep 2023) by Sergey Gromov
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ED: Publish as is (03 Oct 2023) by Sergey Gromov
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# General comments
In general, I think this manuscript makes a valuable contribution to the literature. It introduces a concept - internal drift uncertainty arising from internal climate variability within model control simulations - that is typically overlooked by authors working with climate model variables that are prone to drift (i.e. those influenced by the deep ocean). The main result - that drift uncertainty can be relatively large in comparison to forced trends in historical simulations - is important and the authors put forward a useful method (Monte Carlo Drift Correction) for quantifying/checking the size of drift uncertainty.
Some other minor results are also interesting and well worth documenting:
1. The results the authors present regarding the how the fraction of excess energy absorbed by the ocean and expansion efficiency of heat behaves in control simulations before and after drift correction also adds a little to the existing literature on energy conservation in CMIP models (Hobbs et al 2016; Irving et al 2021).
2. The authors point out that it is preferable to integrate fluxes before correcting the trend (as opposed to correcting the bias before integrating the flux) which is something other papers do (e.g. Irving et al 2019; https://doi.org/10.1029/2019GL082015) but don't necessarily explain why they make that methodological choice.
# Specific comments
The authors acknowledge in the manuscript (line 415 and elsewhere) that a limitation of their study is that they ignore branch time metadata, which could be used to reduce uncertainty by allowing for higher order polynomials to be fitted. I agree with the authors that in some cases the branch time metadata is either not available or incorrect, but more often than not branch time metadata is available/correct and where it isn't it can usually be estimated. For instance, Irving et al (2019; https://doi.org/10.1029/2019GL082015) analyse an ensemble of CMIP models and say the following: "We obtained a drift estimate by fitting a cubic polynomial to the full control time series... The time period in the control simulation that parallels the forced simulation was then identified using the branch time information provided in the file metadata, so that the correct segment of the cubic polynomial could be subtracted from the forced simulation. For models with erroneous metadata, the branch time was estimated via visual inspection of the globally integrated OHC timeseries."
I strongly encourage the authors to follow the lead of Irving et al (2019) by attempting to verify model branch times by plotting a variable such as globally integrated OHC. Since essentially all models have a fairly large drift in globally integrated OHC, if you plot the control and forced experiment time series (using branch time information to line up the respective time axes) it's usually pretty easy to see if the first value of the forced experiment does in fact branch off the control experiment at the time the metadata says it does. If it doesn't, it's usually pretty easy to approximately esimate where the branch point actually is. Following this procedure I'd be surprised if there were many models for which the branch time couldn't be verified as correct or sufficiently estimated. This would allow the authors to overcome some of the main limitations of their study.
# Technical corrections
Irving et al "2020" is quoted throughout the paper but the actual publication year of that paper is 2021: https://doi.org/10.1175/JCLI-D-20-0281.1