Articles | Volume 16, issue 19
https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-16-5601-2023
© Author(s) 2023. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Simulations of idealised 3D atmospheric flows on terrestrial planets using LFRic-Atmosphere
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- Final revised paper (published on 10 Oct 2023)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-647', Anonymous Referee #1, 18 Jul 2023
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- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Denis Sergeev, 04 Sep 2023
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AR by Denis Sergeev on behalf of the Authors (06 Sep 2023)
This manuscript sets out to describe the new UK Met Office LFRic modelling framework as applied to the general problem of simulating atmospheric circulations that may be well removed from that of present day Earth itself. The detailed formulation is mostly presented fairly thoroughly with plenty of references and the manuscript goes on to present a set of simulations of some well known test cases for planetary atmosphere modelling for comparison with results of other GCMs used recently for exoplanet studies. In general the results seem to be encouraging in demonstrating that LFRic-Atmosphere produces results that are largely consistent with predecessor GCMs (including the current Met Office UM) for most test cases and satisfies some important tests of conservation of key integral quantities such as mass and angular momentum. The results therefore confirm that LFRic-Atmosphere has the potential to be a valuable new tool for planetary and exoplanetary studies, offering the possibility of interfacing it to some quite sophisticated parameterisation schemes for physical and chemical processes. The addition of the Trappist-1 test cases are particularly interesting and would merit further more detailed analysis - though perhaps for another publication that focuses more on scientific results than on the modelling methods.
The manuscript itself seems to be generally well written and organised. It provides much useful detail and background on the model code itself, which has a number of unusual and innovative features. The test cases seem generally well chosen and make for useful and convincing comparisons with the results of similar tests with other GCM codes. The manuscript could be accepted more or less as it is, though I have listed below a few points that the authors can respond to in a revised version.
Major point:
One of the more significant points concerns the choice of the cubed sphere grid. An earlier intercomparison of exoplanetary GCM codes by Polichtchouk et al. (2014) indicated that the cubed sphere version of MITgcm performed least well in some test cases than other discretisation methods, citing issues with conservation properties and other artefacts related to the grid. It may be helpful to include a brief discussion of why LFRic-Atmosphere does not seem to display these kinds of issue compared with MITgcm.
Other minor points:
Line 15 - the use of the word “precipice” here may not carry the meaning intended by the authors. Moving beyond a precipice has the sense of falling off a cliff, with the natural (somewhat catastrophic!) consequences! Perhaps “threshold” might be a more auspicious word choice here?
Line 102 - The neglect of latitudinal variations in geopotential ignores changes in g between equator and pole? This is significant at the 0.5% level for Earth (and is probably bigger on fast-rotating gas giants?).
Line 109 - Perhaps a good place to discuss the choice of cubed sphere in comparison with Polichtchouk et al 2014?
Eqs (50), (6) and (11) - why split these into 2 lines? Seems unnecessary and leads to potentially confusing disparity in sizes of brackets.
Lines 279-80 - You could use a dimensionless measure of AM such as in Lewis et al. (2021. Characterizing Regimes of Atmospheric Circulation in Terms of Their Global Superrotation, J. Atmos Sci., 78, 1245-58 and references therein)?
Line 347 - Perhaps helpful to emphasise that clouds and microphysics here refer only to water (exoplanets max have clouds of varying composition!).
Lines 352-3 - Perhaps give references for details of GA7.0 and GA9.0 configurations?
Figure 8 and associated text - Zonal mean fields are not necessarily very illuminating for tidally-locked planets. It is perhaps beyond the scope of this paper, but a decomposition following Hammond & Lewis 2021 may be more enlightening?
Line 497 - “While we cannot judge which THAI GCM is more correct due to the absence of observations” - which is the bane of almost all exoplanet circulation studies! But more generally it may be useful to include a statement emphasising what new advantages LFRic-Atmosphere offers to the planetary atmosphere modelling community compared with other codes. Some of this is covered in the Introduction, but may be worth emphasising in the conclusions.
References - several references display the titles of articles entirely as upper case, which looks strange.