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Adjoint-Based Simultaneous State and Parameter Estimation in an Arctic Sea Ice-Ocean Model using MITgcm (c63m)
Abstract. Parameters in sea ice-ocean coupled models greatly affect the simulated ocean and sea ice evolution, and are normally tunned to bring the model state close to the observations. Using an adjoint method, spatiotemporally varying parameters of Arctic sea ice-ocean coupled model are optimized simultaneously with the initial condition and the atmospheric forcing by assimilating satellite and in-situ observations. The assimilation results show that the joint state and parameter estimation (SPE) substantially improves the sea ice concentration simulation. Particularly in October when the ocean surface starts to refreeze, SPE reduces the lead closing parameter Ho, which determines the minimum ice thickness formed in the open water, to increase the lateral sea ice growth and facilitate the seasonal rapid sea ice recovery in the Pacific sector. Comparisons with sea ice thickness observations from the moored upward looking sonars and Ice Mass Balance buoys demonstrate that the inclusion of model parameters in the optimization also leads to better sea ice thickness estimation. Overall, the adjoint-based SPE scheme has the potential to better reproduce the Arctic ocean and sea ice state and will be applied to reproduce a new Arctic sea ice-ocean reanalysis.
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RC1: 'Comment on gmd-2024-189', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 May 2025
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Guokun Lyu, 29 Jul 2025
Dear reviewer:
Thanks for your detailed comments and insightful disscussion on our work. we have revised the manuscript based on the reviewers' comments.
attached is the response to all your comments.
please let me konw if you have any further concerns
Guokun Lyu on behalf of the authors.
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AC3: 'Reply on RC1', Guokun Lyu, 29 Jul 2025
Dear reviewer:
Thanks for your detailed comments and insightful disscussion on our work. we have revised the manuscript based on the reviewers' comments.
attached is the response to all your comments.
please let me konw if you have any further concerns
Guokun Lyu on behalf of the authors.
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Guokun Lyu, 29 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on gmd-2024-189', Francois Massonnet, 28 Jun 2025
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://gmd.copernicus.org/preprints/gmd-2024-189/gmd-2024-189-RC2-supplement.pdf
- AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Guokun Lyu, 29 Jul 2025
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This study potentially contributes significantly to the sea ice model optimisation problem by employing an adjoint method that, for the first time, simultaneously optimises both the model state and a set of its parameters. Therefore, the study topic is valuable and suitable for GMD, so its publication after a careful revision is recommended.
A major issue is that the study is based on the very exceptional year 2011/2012 in the Arctic. However, the authors make general claims about the physical importance of sea ice model parameters. A question arises: Is one year enough to reach such conclusions, and are the results robust when tested for other years?
There is an issue of reproducibility, as the adjoint model is only available to the editors and reviewers for review via the submission system, and the study may not comply with the FAIR principles (https://www.nature.com/articles/sdata201618).
The discussion section is very brief, and what is crucially missing from it is comparing the study results with others, which would importantly put them in the context of broader research. Such a comparison would also help assess the results' robustness and novelty. Also, English is poor in places, with many writing mistakes and misspelled words. There is a need to check English grammar.
Finally, I have multiple minor points and editorial suggestions that I hope the authors will consider:
as they optimised MITgcm initial conditions. I suggest you add the citation.