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Diagnosis of winter precipitation types using Spectral Bin Model (SBM): Comparison of five methods using ICE-POP 2018 field experiment data
Abstract. Winter precipitation types (WPTs) are controlled by many factors, including thermodynamic and microphysical processes. Therefore, realistically simulating interactions between precipitation particles and the atmosphere is important when diagnosing the WPT. In the present study, we analyze the performance of the one-dimensional spectral bin model (SBM) developed by Carlin and Ryzhkov (2019), which simulates the change in the physical characteristics of precipitation particles of various sizes as they fall from the cloud top to the ground and diagnoses surface WPT. We compare the performance of the SBM and four other diagnostic methods that use the following variables: 1) atmospheric thickness, 2) wet-bulb temperature, 3) temperature and relative humidity, and 4) wet-bulb temperature and low-level lapse rate. Three reference WPTs (snow [SN], rain [RA], and RASN) are obtained from particle size velocity (PARSIVEL) disdrometer data using a newly proposed decision algorithm. The results show that the SBM has the highest overall skill score for winter precipitation, especially at the mountain sites. In contrast, the skill score of the SBM is lower than the other methods for RA. These results indicate that the SBM simulations tend to underestimate melting compared to observations. We thus explore the effects of the SBM’s microphysics scheme on the extent of melting in cases of misdiagnosed RA. An optimized SBM that uses the climatological snow density‑diameter relationship for the Pyeongchang region produces an increased amount of melting and achieves an improved skill score compared to the original SBM, which uses climatological relationships for Colorado region.
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RC1: 'Comment on gmd-2024-179', Anonymous Referee #1, 04 Dec 2024
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REVIEW for GMD # gmd-2024-179:
“Diagnosis of winter precipitation types using Spectral Bin Model (SBM): Comparison of five methods using ICE-POP 2018 field experiment data” by Bang et al.
Overview:
The authors evaluated five diagnosis schemes of identifying winter precipitation types using data from the ICE-POP 2018 field experiment. They found that the scheme using one-dimensional spectral bin model (SBM) with the climatological snow density-diameter relationship for the Pyeongchang region demonstrates superior performance. The manuscript is well written, clear, and easy to follow. I have only some minor comments regarding clarification or justification for consideration.
Specific Comments:
- Section 2.2: How large uncertainties of these observations? The authors should discuss them to enhance the manuscript’s robustness.
- Lines 156-162: Was there only one sounding available for each precipitation event? Should the earlier soundings be used as environmental profiles to diagnose precipitation types?
- Lines 221-222: How to determine critical values for different sites? Please clarify.
- Lines 293-294: Please justify “initialized as unrimed low-density snow aggregates”.
- Lines 298-303: The authors argued that “the assumption of mass conservation” may be valid. However, how about PSDs? Given the same mass, PSDs at the surface and in the upper atmosphere could differ significantly. Please justify it.
- Figures 10-12: Which SBM method, original or optimized one is shown in these figures?
- Line 500: Why were not all examples within each group included, especially given the limited number of examples? A justification for this selection would be helpful.
- Lines 546-547: Should the authors also consider updating the Vt-D relationship for ice particles?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-2024-179-RC1 -
CC2: 'Reply on RC1', Wonbae Bang, 19 Dec 2024
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CEC1: 'Comment on gmd-2024-179 - No compliance with the policy of the journal', Juan Antonio Añel, 08 Dec 2024
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Dear authors,
Unfortunately, after checking your manuscript, it has come to our attention that it does not comply with our "Code and Data Policy".
https://www.geoscientific-model-development.net/policies/code_and_data_policy.htmlin your "Code and Data Availability" statement you say that the code and data that you use for your work is available upon request. I am sorry to have to be so outspoken, but this is something completely unacceptable, forbidden by our policy, and your manuscript should have never been accepted for Discussions given such flagrant violation of the policy. All the code and data must be published openly and freely to anyone before submission of a manuscript.
Therefore, we are granting you a short time to solve this situation. You have to reply to this comment in a prompt manner with the information for the repositories containing all the models, code and data that you use to produce and replicate your manuscript. The reply must include the link and permanent identifier (e.g. DOI). Also, any future version of your manuscript must include the modified section with the new information.
Additionally, you have submitted a "Model Evaluation Paper", and our policy states that this kind of manuscript must include the model version number in the title. Again, you have failed to comply with it. Please, reply to this comment with the new title containing the model version number.
Note that if you do not fix these problems as requested, we will have to reject your manuscript for publication in our journal.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive EditorCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-2024-179-CEC1 -
CC1: 'Updating assets and title of gmd-2024-179', Wonbae Bang, 10 Dec 2024
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Dear GMD Executive Editor
We sincerely apologize our misunderstanding of the policies.
We realize that our assets (data, code) is accessed for only reviewers.
Immeidately, we make new doi assets with 'free access'.- The source code of Spectral Bin Model (version: 1DSBM-19M) is avaliable at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14350651 (Carlin et al. 2024)
- The model output of 1DSBM-19M is available at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14353025 (Bang 2024)
- Processed PARSIVEL, sounding, AWS dataset used in this study is available at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14351937 (Bang et al. 2024)
- New decision algorithm of surface precipitation type for PARSIVEL data and final decision results is avaliable at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14353519 (Bang et al. 2024)
- Plot program for MRR data is available at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14352684 (Bang and Kim, 2024).
- Calculation and plot program for 5 diagnosis methods is available at https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14354011 (Bang et al. 2024)Also, we suggest new title including model version (1DSBM-19M):
Diagnosis of winter precipitation types using Spectral Bin Model (1DSBM-19M): Comparison of five methods using ICE-POP 2018 field experiment dataAgain, we are very sorry about this issue,
please accept our sincerest apologies.Best regards
Wonbae Bang
Researcher
Kyungpook National UniversityCitation: https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-2024-179-CC1 -
CEC2: 'Reply on CC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 11 Dec 2024
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Dear authors,
Many thanks for addressing this issue so quickly.
Juan A. Añel
Geosci. Model Dev. Executive Editor
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-2024-179-CEC2
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CEC2: 'Reply on CC1', Juan Antonio Añel, 11 Dec 2024
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CC1: 'Updating assets and title of gmd-2024-179', Wonbae Bang, 10 Dec 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on gmd-2024-179', Anonymous Referee #2, 09 Dec 2024
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Overview:
This paper is an evaluation of precipitation type diagnosis algorithms in a region of complex terrain and coastal influences in South Korea. In general, the paper is well written, and the results are clearly explained. I think that the paper is ready for publication after the authors address some minor issues.
Specific comments:
Line 34: Does vaporization = evaporation? I would recommend using evaporation here (as already used elsewhere in the paper), as it is more commonly used in meteorology and will be more familiar to readers.
Lines 41-77: I think it would be worthwhile to mention precipitation type diagnosis algorithms that work in conjunction with microphysical parameterizations within numerical weather prediction models. For example, the algorithm described in this paper:
https://doi.org/10.1175/WAF-D-15-0136.1
If you briefly described those algorithms, you could distinguish them from the types of algorithms you are evaluating herein (which are based purely on observations).
Lines 309-321: Can you explicitly describe h. Is it the overall hit rate? Whereas h’ is averaged across three p types? So if one p-type does particularly badly, but only has a few cases, h’ will be much lower than h. Is that right? I think the distinction between h and h’ could be more clearly described, which would help the reader interpret results.
Lines 525-527: It seems like collision-coalescence is an important factor to include in SBM. Can you provide some more detail on its effects and reasons for exclusion?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/gmd-2024-179-RC2 -
CC3: 'Reply on RC2', Wonbae Bang, 19 Dec 2024
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CC3: 'Reply on RC2', Wonbae Bang, 19 Dec 2024
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